3 Signs You’re An Over-Involved Swim Parent

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By Nicole Cassou, Swimming World College Intern

I must preface this list with one simple fact; swimming is hard. I’m not just referring to the extraordinary level of discipline and commitment this sport demands of its athletes, but also of those athletes’ parents.

There are the early morning drives, the hours of sitting in that stuffy natatorium, and then finally, the meets. In the early days of my swimming career my father used to affectionately describe meets as “waiting around for five hours watching kids you don’t give a crap about to see your kid swim for two minutes.”

Probably around the time I was 11, both of my parents’ attitudes about swimming had evolved to the point where they had become true fans of the sport, but they, like many parents in my own humble opinion got a little too into it. It can be hard not to after all of those monotonous hours spent in the hot, chlorinated air.

One of the most important things a parent can do to ensure the longevity of their child’s swimming career is to let them own it early on, so that they can establish their own intrinsic motivation and development.

These three behaviors are just some of the traits I have seen in over-involved swim parents, but they are often the most detrimental. Self-awareness of these habits can help parents make sure they are giving their child the room to develop on their own, so that by the time their swimmers are driving themselves to practice, they’ll be going because they want to.

1. You know all of your swimmer’s competitors’ times, technique, and how they race.

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While simply being in the know about the competition is fine, and can make meets more engaging, it can also lead to a toxic behavior that can undermine your swimmer’s confidence; sizing them up against the competition.

If you find yourself talking to your swimmer more about others’ races and times than their own, you will most likely leave them discouraged. I can assure you that most swimmers are constantly comparing themselves to their fellow teammates and competitors, so when their own parents start to do so, the path to getting as fast as that other kid can start to feel like an insurmountable challenge. This outlook can lead swimmers to anticipate practice not with the desire to improve, but with dread, fearful that the work they put in won’t get them to that other swimmer’s level of success that their parents keep raving about.

A healthier way to motivate your swimmer to be better is to simply ask what their coach thinks they should work on. For their next race focus on looking for that technique element or pace change, not what the kid in the next lane is doing.

2. You talk to your swimmer’s coach one-on-one more than they do.

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Whether this correspondence is by email or in person, any conversations about development, times, or technique should remain strictly on an athlete-coach basis.

Encouraging your swimmer to talk to their coach is one thing, but taking it upon yourself to have that talk with the coach is an entirely different story. It is absolutely crucial that young swimmers have the confidence to verbalize their goals and concerns to their coach. This skill will become of the upmost importance as swimmers mature, and large time drops become harder and harder to come by. Clear communication with a coach about individual needs will ultimately become what sets the stage for continued improvement.

3. You instruct your child how to prepare for their race—mentally and physically.

Photo Courtesy: © Peter H. B ick

Photo Courtesy: © Peter H. Bick

Every athlete is different when it comes to race preparation. There are those who don’t even need to dip a single toe in the water for warm-up, while others need a full 20 minutes to swim right up until they race. Some will laugh and talk with teammates behind the blocks to stay calm, while others isolate themselves in a corner with headphones in.

Telling your swimmer when to warm-up and when to stop talking to their friends and focus might seem like harmless guidance, but it is up to them to discover what works. There is no way for a parent to know how their child should prepare so that they can be at their best. This will most likely be a process of trial-and-error, so patience like most things in parenting is key.

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Jack DaRipper
6 years ago

Baloney… You need to distinguish between an obsessive parent and an interested parent that is healthfully concerned with their child’s swimming and progress. This article is way off. If I did the same thing with their homework how would that make me a better parent while they were struggling doing it. My swim coach never talks to my kid and if I didn’t talk to him, nobody would.

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Sandie
6 years ago
Reply to  Jack DaRipper

He isn’t ‘your’ swim coach. He’s your kids. I get what you are saying though. I often feel that as one of the ‘others’ my daughter gets overlooked by the coach as well

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Kate
6 years ago
Reply to  Sandie

Yeah, I did notice that “my swim coach” thing. That sent up a red flag.

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Jack DaRipper
6 years ago
Reply to  Sandie

He is your child’s swim coach. This is what I meant. So now that that’s clear I’ll tell you what I’ve observed. In fact, I see most kids being ignored when I’ve gone to swim meets, while the coaches shoot the breeze with their “supposed” stars. In fact, I don’t even go to most swim meets because of work obligations. The feedback I’m getting is from my child himself, who clearly states that he is ignored and never told what’s good or bad. He just gets yelled at and that’s it. As for moving to other swim clubs, I’ve seen the same thing and other parents have commented the same thing. USA Swimming has wonderful regulations but they have nobody checking to see if the local swim clubs are actually following through with all their wonderful policy descriptions.

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swimparent
6 years ago
Reply to  Jack DaRipper

Agree the article is negative.

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6 years ago
Reply to  Jack DaRipper

If your child’s coach does not talk to your child, change clubs. The club is missing the boat.

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swimparent
6 years ago
Reply to  windrath

Agree, but it’s not always that simple. Only other club is 30 miles away, and child has good friends as well.

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Patty
6 years ago
Reply to  Jack DaRipper

I understand your point but honestly, I’d recommend you get a new coach. Your coach should be talking to your child before AND after every race as well as meetings with each of their swimmers to help them create goals and a plan of how they are going to achieve those goals! Not every swimmer is going to be a Q swimmer but most certainly every coach should be a “Q” coach! Of course we talk to our children about swimming! It’s part of their life; part of our lives as well, but you and I are not their coach. Why should we be in charge of doing their job that they get paid to do? if your coach does not have your child keep a log book with his own handwriting in it, listing the goals they have made together as a coach and swimmer and a plan of how to achieve those goals, as well as a record keeping track of your swimmer’s times in all the events offered, again, in your swimmer’s own handwriting, you might want to suggest this. The only other handwriting in your swimmer’s log book should be the coach’s … in the “comments section” after each race. Arrange to have your child/swimmer ready to go “talk” to the coach with log book in hand … the coach will record his/her time and jot quick notes on what to work on! It’s a great thing!! Coaches are valued tools and that is why we pay to belong to their team. I could teach my children to swim but honestly, the bond that was made between them as swimmer and coach has carried them forward into their adult lives…and yes, the coach is STILL involved in their lives! I know you are a good parent because we swim parents are just that … “good parents” … but really, encourage your swimmer to go to their coach … get a folder and have your swimmer give it to him. I tell you, the coach will be impressed beyond measure and your child will become a better swimmer as they learn to trust their coach. On the up side, it also lightens up your load, to sit back and enjoy the race! Good luck to you. You are a great parent, now make your coach be a GREAT coach!

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6 years ago

Ugh. me…

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6 years ago

So true

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swimparent
6 years ago

In a perfect world, this is great advice. Most likely written by someone who had a “fast lane” swimmer who got lots of attention. Kids have different personalities, learning needs, ability levels, development rates, etc. Many coaches actually don’t understand this because they lack any background in child development. They swam, they were good, so they think they can coach. And maybe they are a good coach for the best swimmers, because they can relate to them. But they may ignore the average or slower swimmers.

Some coaches do nothing with goal setting, whereas others have kids fill out goal sheets weekly. And not all coaches communicate well — with swimmers or parents. Some coaches don’t even watch their swimmer’s races.

Also, not all kids are outgoing and will go to their coach for these discussions. Many kids are compliant and don’t feel comfortable asking. That skill comes much later in some kids than others.

I agree there are SOME over-involved swim parents, but look deeper, there is more of them when the coach is under-involved with their kid.

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Kate
6 years ago
Reply to  swimparent

This article isn’t that negative as far as I can see. I’m not really sure why this advice would only work in a “perfect world”. It gives a lot of good advice if you take it for what it’s worth. Quite frankly, many kids will talk to coaches (or teachers) before they will talk to their parents. This becomes more true as the child gets older.

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COswim Parent
6 years ago
Reply to  swimparent

Actually, the author is an intern and as I remember a swimmer from Colorado. Great article Nicole! You’re great swimmer who I am sure is speaking from your own experience. I’m sure you were never compared to that other girl you were swimming against…what was her name…oh, Missy. You are a great by your own right!

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swimparent
6 years ago
Reply to  COswim Parent

Right…the experience of superstar swimmers, and their parents, is often different from experiences of average swimmers…even those who work harder and make more practices. I see coaches that walk right by most parents to go chat with the superstar’s parents…happens all the time!

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6 years ago

I know a few parents like this-I am NOT one of them.

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swim-mer
6 years ago

I love that all the “swim parents” are reacting to this. Ha! Point proven!

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6 years ago

While I agree that sometimes some parents can be overly “pushy”…… How can a parent be “over involved” in their kids life…?????? I don’t agree. For most parents, their kids are their whole lives and everything we do is for them!!! Coaches and clubs need to remember this sometimes I think!!!!!

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Kate
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buna

Their kids are “their whole lives”? Uh Oh. My mother once told me that the hardest part about being a parent is knowing when to step in and knowing when to let go. I have come to agree with that. Unfortunately, kids don’t come with an owners manual.

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6 years ago
Reply to  Michael Buna

Because it’s important to let the child mature and develop a relationship with the coach on their own. It will improve their confidence all around if they can handle it on their own. Best thing I ever did was step back. My oldest refused to swim a race the other day and instead of hovering while coach talked to her, I walked away and told her, it’s between you and him. She respects him and it will pay off as she matures.

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swimparent
6 years ago

Look at the photo…none of those parents are looking too overly involved. They all look pretty bored!

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swimparent
6 years ago
Reply to  swimparent

In fact, the one “Swim Dad” is yawning! LOL!

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Luanne.
6 years ago

I flunked! Didn’t do any of them… Became an official instead…

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Noelle
6 years ago

If you take issue with this article, then you are one of the parents that has a problem. I recognized early on that I was turning into this parent and I have taken steps way back and it has been the best thing for my children. Now they go to the coach and talk to her about things that they need to discuss and I stay out of it. They’ve developed a relationship and that is a good thing. And when I sit on the sidelines and I look at the other swimmers that they swim against it’s not about comparing kids it’s about all of the kids improving on their times.

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Swim kids don’t want anyone in their ears, they are focused on what they have to do. Times? Baseball has stats, Football has score, basketball has points. Coaches speak rarely and not at a meet, they have too many to worry about. We are there to support the sport, it’s hard work, it’s disappointing, it’s rewarding and parents are there to support our kids. Keep an extra towel, don’t look down you’ll miss your kid’s 21 sec. drink plenty of water. Enjoy the meet and be just as excited for personal bests.

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After years of watching my own 3 kids swim and then spending some time coaching at the Age Group level, along with my 15 plus years of working in elementary education, I would agree wholeheartedly with this article. We are doing our children a disservice to care more about their sports/activities/grades/friends than they do. The purpose of “sport” is to grow in confidence, independence and self-awareness……can’t do that with your mom/dad hovering and solving the problems for you.

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6 years ago

Let the coaches coach and the parents just enjoy the race.

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6 years ago

I barely know my own kids times.

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Michael
6 years ago

I have no idea how to share this with my team without upsetting parents. However, I think the ones that would benefit most from reading this probably don’t recognize that this article is about them.

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SwimCoach
6 years ago
Reply to  Michael

You could preface the article with a personal note about your experience, ask the parents to read the article with a mind to be the best support for their swimmer, and to approach you with any questions. It may even be a good discussion tool at a parent meeting.

Your set of parents may be different from the ones I work with, but I found that when approaching any conversation or sending out content to help educate the parent, it was helpful to focus on how we can work together to benefit their swimmer and set clear boundaries as both coach and parent to help them succeed in the sport (and beyond). Then when a problem arose when a boundary was crossed, we were able to have better conversation about it.

Good luck and I hope you find positive way to share this information with your team!

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Stacey M
6 years ago

We know a parent like this. During our first chat she said…”Oh hi, my daughter is faster than yours, I looked up her times, my daughter should be in a better squad.” I said, “Hi I’m Stacey, whatever!” She knows every swimmers times and lets them know when they haven’t swum well. Same parent sits on pool deck every session watching and talking inappropriately about children, oh and is in the coaches face everyday, she’s the one that always buys him a coffee…suck. She also dragged her daughter out the pool after a comp because she didn’t “beat” a squad mate. Feral! We moved clubs to escape her particularly, as did 3 or 4 other families, she put herself on the committee and has taken over, so the whole club is now crap. Some of those parents have the power.

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swimparent
6 years ago
Reply to  Stacey M

I really wish coaches would see beyond their free coffee and realize these brown-nosing parents are helicopter parents just schmoozing them to get their kid favored. Wish coaches or board would tell the kiss-up parents to knock it off or at least find a way to accept equal opportunity donations, such as an anonymus fund only for Starbucks giftcards for coffee.

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6 years ago

Flunked.. Only knew which level of comp was next… Became an official instead..

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6 years ago

Oh yikes…I might be guilty. I know all of the kids Brady’s age.

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6 years ago

Good stuf, all true#!

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6 years ago

Whoops that’s me I own it ✋???

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6 years ago

Redundancy in the title!!! Haha!!

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6 years ago

This article is garbage…

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6 years ago

Hahahahahahaha Andrea Aldridge ??

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6 years ago

Guilty…

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6 years ago

Lmao….extra towel,H20 and mood stabiliser for mom perhaps. ?

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6 years ago

You’re welcome coach Thomas Moore!!!!! ?

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6 years ago

Guilty on 2 of 3….

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6 years ago

Lisbeth, minder måske om en jeg kender? Men det er godt at forældrene følger med!

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6 years ago
Reply to  Milla Bauer

Ja Milla kan da kun nikke godkendende til det ? dog er jeg ikke helt så “slem” på punkt 1 & 2 men punkt 3 er jo når træneren har lidt for meget om ørerne og glemmer svømmere der skal på skamlen og det gælder ikke kun min egen. Ingen undskyldning men som han også skriver – det er godt nok mange timer man bruger på denne sport så det er svært ikke at engegere sig på den ene eller anden måde. ?

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6 years ago

Well Meg looks like I am the perfect swimming parent after all! Not tooooooo involved!!!

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6 years ago

Hmmmm

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6 years ago

Jenny Borozan you know who this is

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6 years ago

Lily Robinson ??

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6 years ago
Reply to  Mal Bradley

Look at all of these disagreeing comments ??

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6 years ago
Reply to  Mal Bradley

Yeah they all sound like something an over involved swim parent would say ??

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6 years ago
Reply to  Mal Bradley

Also, a few names came to mind when I read it ?

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6 years ago
Reply to  Mal Bradley

Haha definitely ?

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6 years ago

Ghada Hegab you are

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6 years ago

Bob Lennon

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6 years ago

Debra Johnson

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6 years ago

Eoin Boyle

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6 years ago

Brent Wright Cynthia Wright

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6 years ago

Ana Cláudia Antunes

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6 years ago

Christall Pulliam Ingle ???❤️❤️

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6 years ago

Cyndy Reed

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6 years ago
Reply to  Corina Reed

Wait – are you saying I’m over involved?

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6 years ago
Reply to  Corina Reed

No I thot ud see pop in it (the last one) it was supposed to be funny

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6 years ago
Reply to  Corina Reed

Ok, ya…I do see him. I was nervous!

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I can relate!

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6 years ago

Dermot Ryan thank god I don’t tick any of those boxes. Those endless hours in the stand means more book time. According to this I’m not an over involved parent.

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6 years ago

I was a riding instructor, often I world have to have a little conversation with parents about boundaries. If send Mom or Dad off for a coffee, and they’d come back and sit and watch. Often they were amazed at what their children had learned in the short time they were away.

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6 years ago

Sharon Volkov – do we know anyone like this lol!!!

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6 years ago

Lockie Jones bahahaha bahahaha

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6 years ago

Colbi? Lol

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6 years ago

Emma

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6 years ago

Jodie

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6 years ago

Stephen Marchant

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Kevin O'Driscoll
6 years ago

As a coach and a parent, this is right on. If you know other kids best times, you’re whacked. Coaches do have favorites, the one’s who follow directions, the one’s who accept a challenge, the ones who greet their coach at the beginning of practice and thank them afterward. Coaches prefer coaching the kids who always have their equipment, spare googles, cap and don’t have to be reminded to hydrate and never offer excuses. Coaches need motivating too, motivation is a two way street. As a coach, I knew my swimmers best times, as a Dad, I don’t know my children’s best times, I have to look them up. My job as a Dad is simply to say, “I love to watch you swim!”