By Priyant Pratap
CANBERRA, Australia, May 10. ANYONE that thought the Japanese wouldn't be able to hold their own against the Australians in the Duel in the Pool this year was sorely mistaken. Australia pulled out a close 167-162 victory in the elite stages, but witnessed a series of stunning upsets throughout the meet that led to an overall loss of 352-305 when adding in the youth events.
The 200 backstroke events on the final day featured great swims by each victor.
Both 200 back events saw great swims by each victor. The men's swim saw Ryan Lochte's Beijing world record of 1:53.94 axed when Ryosuke Irie, wearing an Arena X-Glide, broke the 1:53 barrier to clock 1:52.86.
Here are the comparative splits for the world record:
Irie: 26.84, 55.46 (28.62), 1:24.42 (28.96), 1:52.86 (28.44)
Lochte: 27.24, 55.77 (28.53), 1:25.06 (29.29), 1:53.94 (28.88)
"I am very happy to break the world record in Australia, and I am confident I can break the record again at the world championships," Irie told Swimming Australia.
Day 1 saw Irie come within .02 of erasing Aaron Peirsol's 100 back global standard. The world-record performance today was the first time in 10 years that a world record had been swum in this pool. Michael Klim broke the 100 fly world record in 51.81 a decade ago.
As for the women's 200 back, despite being ill for 8 weeks, Meagen Nay set a Commonwealth record of 2:07.41 to win ahead of teammate Belinda Hocking (2:09.01).
The women's 200 IM featured an upset when Asami Kitagawa (2:12.79) and Tomoyo Fukuda (2:13.58) beat world-record holder Stephanie Rice (2:14.35), while Rice's co-Rome qualifier in this event, Emily Seebohm, finished last in 2:18.34.
In the men's 200 IM, Ken Takakuwa and Takuro Fujii cleared the two-minute barrier clocking 1:59.18 and 1:59.87, respectively, while Australian champion Leith Brodie (2:05.20) finished fifth with a time that was slower than the top 5 times posted in the youth event swum minutes before.
In the women's 200 breast, Rie Kaneto posted an impressive 2:22.83, to lead the Japanese trio that included Nanaka Tamura and Hitomi Nose to victory whilst Australia's Sally Foster (2:26.81) and Sarah Katsoulis (2:29.06) finished in the bottom two.
Similarly, Beijing silver medalist Brenton Rickard finished in last place in the men's 200 breast with a 2:12.37, with Ryo Tateishi (who in day 1 clocked 59.48 in the 100 breast) won with 2:08.25, making him the second-fastest man in history.
In what was a bizarre 50 free for men, Andrew Lauterstein pulled off a victory to post 22.32 beating Makato Ito by .01 having previously defeated Takuro Fujii by the same margin in the 100 fly. Former world-record holder Eamon Sullivan finished third.
In her first swim of the second day, Libby Trickett was unable to match her form from the previous day, swimming 24.27 to win the women's 50 free whilst Olympic bronze medalist Cate Campbell finished second in 24.68 making her the fourth-fastest woman this year.
Neither Nay nor Rice, Australia's 200 free World qualifiers for women, contested the event at the Duel. It was won by Felicity Galvez (1:58.59) while in the men's event, Patrick Murphy (1:48.80), Australia's newest champion to the event, finished in fifth place, which saw the Japanese men take out the top three spots led by Yoshihiro Okumura who won the event in 1:47.41.
In the youth event, Daniel Smith of Australia won with 1:48.04. Jessicah Schipper added to her victory from the 100 fly, taking out the 200 fly in 2:07.83, while Takeshi Matsuda won his 200 fly event in 1:55.36. The event also marked the first national team debut of newly added, Lachlan Staples, who has replaced Nick D'Arcy on the roster, but finished in fourth and last place, with 1:58.75.
The meet concluded with the medley relays of both open and youth teams. Australia's A team finishing on top in the women's 400 medley relay, thanks to a 56.84 fly split by Schipper and 52.90 free split by Trickett. The Japanese men set a new All Corners record of 3:31.91, as the fastest medley relay team to swim on Australian land, a record that has stood since the Sydney Olympics in a time of 3:33.73 by the Americans. Irie took another punt at the 100 back world record but came up just short of 52.54, with a 52.62 handing over to Ryo Tateishi who split 59.16 in the breaststroke leg. Australia's A team of Delaney (53.84), Sprenger (1:00.27), Lauterstein (51.18) and Sullivan (48.10) came second in 3:33.39, Japan's B team in 3rd with 3:35.02 and despite the fastest anchor leg by Matt Targett with 48.09, the Australian B team finished in 4th.
Amid concerns that Australia may return from Rome without a gold medal to boast, this meet has done little to dispel such murmurings. Results say that Australia has won based on senior open results 167 to 162. However, the youth competition within the program existed for a reason, and the overall points score results in a final tally of 352-305, Japan's way.
Many claim that the reason for Australia's elites swimming well off their best is due to most being in hard training, whilst the Japanese have perhaps tapered.
"I've found the meet a good first stepping stone towards Rome with Japan's tough competition." Kyle Richardson told Swimming World. "It's been a great experience to have swum against Australia and Japan's best."
After the Australian team will split to contest various international meets including the illustrious Mare Nostrum tour, they will return for the Grand Prix in Sydney on June 20 for a final meet together before Rome.
Results: Duel in the Pool, Australia vs. Japan
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May 10, 2009 It should be noted that while Ryo Tateishi clocked 2:08.25 which makes him the 2nd fastest man ever, he did not qualify for this event at trials when he finished 3rd. Submitted by: Priyant
May 10, 2009 Beautiful! Forget the suit on this one. That stroke is text book gorgeous. First Roland Matthes and then the great Kristina Egerszegi and now Irie. I could continue gushing about that stroke but won't. Just look and learn. Submitted by: paddles
May 10, 2009 only 19 too Submitted by: xxgeffxx
May 10, 2009 This kid could be the one to break 1:50 for the 200. I know this is rushing things a bit, but the stroke is so smooth and his power deceiving. I cannot wait to see what he has lined up for Rome and beyond. Submitted by: paddles
May 10, 2009 Wow his strong is like disgusting smooth. He doesn't even look like he's swimming hard... Wonder how fast he can go! Shaving a full second off of that record is pretty sick though. Submitted by: Sphere
May 10, 2009 Irie's stroke is picture perfect. Unfortunately the AIS meet was in the old pool and not the new pool with the underwater viewing capabilities. Submitted by: wilhelminas
May 10, 2009 Looking at Irie's races again on TV .. he actually has pretty bad starts and wall skills - he set those times with exceptional free swimming. There is definately areas for further improvement. Scary! Submitted by: wilhelminas
May 11, 2009 Lochte is going to put up a 1:52 at the US trials. Count on it. Submitted by: mario2007
May 11, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cslxxJU-A5U Submitted by: wilhelminas
May 11, 2009 I'm with wilheminas... imagine if he had Lochte's underwaters... Submitted by: Sphere
May 11, 2009 Hold the phone folks on the praise for this swim.
Now coming out that he was wearing a suit from Descente (when did they start making swim suits????). This suit was nowhere on the radar and not many people seem to know about it.
I find it interesting some of the comments about his starts and turns being just so-so yet he crushed the world record due to his amazing technique.
Hate to rain on the Irie parade, but my technique would be 'well' enhanced if the suit I was wearing was giving me a big boost to do so.
The swim is really nice, and yes, the technique is amazing....but once again, we now have to ask if this was really him or if he had a lot of help from some new suit that has gone even farther than the Jaked or the X-Glide (both not approved).
Even a leg suit can make a huge difference if it is so bouyant that it brings the legs and hips up and floats them. MUCH easier to get the rotation and pull right and let it stay in position longer.
We need to hear more about this new Descente suit before this swim can accurately be fawned over. How thick was it? What paneling did it have? How permeable?
This is getting ridiculous that every swim now has to be questioned. This suit seems to have surprised everyone to the point some members of the FINA suit board couldn't comment on it because they didn't know about it.
C'mon FINA....once again....GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!!! Once again, a step behind....
I will join the Irie wonderful technique bandwagon once I hear more about this suit. I would still like to believe that it was all him...but apologies in this day and age if I am a little skeptical first. Submitted by: rcoach
May 11, 2009 Good to pull the reins in, rcoach. Irie's technique was so beautiful, I overlooked the suit issue. Still, at his age, there is LOADS of room for improvement. Just look at Phelps from Athens to Beijing...the time drops he had and he was ONLY 19 in Athens. I still feel that this kid is going to take backstroke to a new level the way Egerszegi did. He is so good, he doesn't need the suit to break records. Now, what is going to happen in Rome when he is swimming a fresh and VERY VERY determined Ryan Lochte and Aaron Piersol? This could be a titanic race! Submitted by: paddles
May 11, 2009 thanks Paddles.
I was encouraged that it was only a leg suit. And his technique is quite wonderful.
But I need to hear more about this new suit.
Apparently more news is that it was a collaboration between Arena and Descent (Arena design, Descent materials??? I don't know this...just a guess).
I would love to hear that this was just an amazing up and coming kid who swam an outragously mad swim without needing some sort of technological marvel to help him do it. Our sport needs that desperately right now.
But this suit ordeal has exploded so much again in the last few months, we have to now "wait and see" if we can be excited or we end up saying just yet another world record in one of "those" suits.
Speaking of the US guys...what in the world is Schubert and USA Swimming going to do? They are so tied to Speedo, yet the LZR now seems to be seriously behind these new breed of suits like the Jaked, X-Glide and possibly this new hi-bred. Rumor is that Rome will be a suit free-for-all and it won't get reigned in until 2010.
Does Speedo have an answer with a new LZR for Rome? Because right now, it looks like a lot of foreign swimmers are not going to be in Speedo products in favor of these new ones.
Do you risk losing just to stay with your sponsor? Submitted by: rcoach
May 11, 2009 Good point rcoach,
I think it's a combination of technique and technology. There's no doubt that Irie is another superstar from Japan. Historically, they've been well accomplished in the breast and back events. Recently they've been making great strides in the butterfly events. They're still a notch below the elite when it comes to the freestyle events. But let's face it, the freestyle is the least technical of strokes and it will be a long time coming before they're up there with the best in this stroke (they've never broken 22 seconds in the 50 free - in an age where 21 low is practically commonplace now...)
That said, I would almost GUARANTEE that it will take a 1:52 to MEDAL (of any color) in this event.
Read this article:
http://www.universalsports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPID=11652&DB_OEM_ID=23000&ATCLID=3728932
(Note: "I honestly think if I would've tied my suit and there wouldn't have been any water rushing through it, I think I could've gone at least a second faster," surmised Lochte.)
Also, underwaters are important to swimming the perfect race, but it's not like they don't have a zero trade-off. Good examples are both Lochte and Coughlin (remember the 100 M Backstroke (Lochte/Peirsol) and 100 M Backstroke/100 M Butterfly (Coughlin/Manadou & Coughlin/the Australians). Submitted by: mario2007
May 11, 2009 Yeah, no doubt Lochte and Irie will both be 1:52 in Rome. However, don't know if the bronze medalist even has to go sub-1:54. I think if Peirsol can get back to his Beijing form, he will have bronze no matter what, with a 1:52-high or 1:54-low. His only challenger will be Phelps at Nationals. Remember, only Irie, Lochte, Peirsol, Phelps, and Vyatchanin have been sub-1:54, and the only guys besides Irie that have been 1:55 this year are Vyatchanin, Stanislav Donets (Russia), and Ashley Delaney. We shall soon see.
By the way, I tried swimming with Irie's perfect head position and amazing stroke - it's hard! He must have been working on that for a while! Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 11, 2009 SwimDER94,
If Phelps swims the 200 Back at Nationals, you better believe he will go 1:52. His PB is 1:54.65 (I believe), but that was back in the time when he swam a 1:45.1 in the 200 Free. He'll be a good 2 seconds faster at Nationals. Unless Peirsol can improve considerably, he may not even make the team for Worlds. Submitted by: mario2007
May 11, 2009 My prediction is that if Phelps swims the 200 Back, then it will take a faster than current world record time to make the podium at World's.
Also, expect a slew of world records to be broken just like in 2007.
It's gonna be fun! Submitted by: mario2007
May 11, 2009 If Phelps doesn't swim the 200 Back at nationals, Peirsol should make it. I think he can beat Clary and Nick Thoman in the 200 Back. If one of them beats him in the 200, I'd say they'd have to go 1:54-low at least. Currently, I have him winning the 100 with Thoman second, but who knows what will happen there!
Phelps would have the semis of the 100 Fly (the only event I can't see him skipping) and the finals of the 4x200 free relay (he's def doing that) the same day as the 200 back final, so I'm not so sure he'd do it. But if he did, his PB is 1:54.65 from the same Nationals where (not fully tapered) he swam 1:44.98 200 Free and came back an hour later for a 53.01 100 Back. I agree with you about making the podium at Worlds if Phelps swims it.
Remember the good ol' days when Peirsol was the only man under 1:55 (see introductions @ 2007 Worlds) and the closest only others under 1:56 were Phelps (1:55.30), Vyatchanin (1:55.44), and Krayzelburg (1:55.87)? Things were much less complex then. Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 11, 2009 The Descente suit worn by Irie was not yet FINA approved. Any word yet on whether this and other records recently set in non-approved suits will be ratified? Submitted by: liquidassets
May 11, 2009 Craig Lord (SwimNews) is saying how bad the suits are for the sport, blah, blah, blah. If the records are approved but the suits not, THAT would be TERRIBLE for our sport. Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 11, 2009 You are all driving me crazy anticipating Worlds! LOL Submitted by: paddles
May 11, 2009 Sorry, paddles, I'm just getting really excited! Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 11, 2009 LOL Bring it on!!! :o) Submitted by: paddles
May 11, 2009 Friends, it would like doing a reflection with you!
Since there will be checked the measure of 1 millimeter of the clothes of rubber before the competition, I wait what after all of that one it messes up, the FINA is held responsible for the frauds, it is clear that the swindlers will be going to do clothes with 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 millimeters with the same design of the clothes of permitted rubber!!
How to say if a clothes have 1.0 or 1.3 millimeters?
Irresponsibility of the FINA!!!
I wait that the members of the FINA, think less in cash and more in our dear sport!!
Submitted by: Luiz
May 12, 2009 This is exactly why the suit/arms race is bad for the sport. I want to be happy for the Bousquet sub 21 50 free and the Irie sub 153 backstroke because these are incredible athletes doing incredible things but there is always the question of the suit. In the back of my mind I wonder what the former greats of our sport would have done in these suits. I know there are always advances in technology but this seems out of the norm. I can imagine Mary T still holding the 200 fly world record if she had swum in a Jaked. What would Popov had done, etc. In my mind the athletes that are doing great things now are ill-served by the incredo-suits as in my mind there is a question of how much was the suit and how much was the athlete. I know this is no different from what others are saying but it is frustrating to have these doubts. Submitted by: teamwiess
May 12, 2009 Couldn't agree more, teamweiss. With Popov, the suits were so SMALL back then you KNEW who was the best and there was never a question of the legitimacy of the records he set up (not to mention the other greats). Meagher's 200 fly record was set in a notoriously slow pool. Forgive the fantasy, but in a Jaked or LZR swum in the ultra-modern Beijing pool, how comparable would her 2:05.9 be to today's 2:04.1 world record? Any guesses? But I agree that there is always doubt about today's fast times. How much is the athlete and how much is the suit???? I really hate always having to ask that question. Submitted by: paddles
May 12, 2009 I would expect that the upcoming meeting on May 19th will have a lively discussion about the world records "set" in the last several months. I'm not predicting a Bobby Knight throwing-the-chairs reaction on the part of some coaches, but I'd sure love to be a fly on one of those walls! Submitted by: Charlie
May 12, 2009 I disagree. EVERYBODY knows that the world records of yesteryear cannot be compared to those of today. And it's not just the suits - how about the evolution of swimming itself - the underwater kicking allowed, the evolution of the flip turn - both of these allow for faster swimming without even the consideration of the suit technology today.
Let's face it, swimming is faster and more exciting. Just make sure that EVERYBODY has the same advantage, so that it truly is a fair contest. Submitted by: mario2007
May 12, 2009 Mario; I think some of us are saying it's NOT more exciting, because of all this confusion. One could say your position would be arguable if everyone wore the exact same suit, except, as folks have pointed out, there are indications that the suits may correct for inferior technique/fitness Submitted by: liquidassets
May 12, 2009 liquidassets,
You are TOTALLY right about this, and I can't believe I didn't take that into consideration (I guess caught up in the WR frenzy, lol).
Yep, what you've said now makes me want to ban ALL these suits, period. It should be about technique and athletic ability. Submitted by: mario2007
May 12, 2009 Go with me on this, but how impossible would it be to just go back to briefs for men and the pre-full body suit for the women? Before anyone jumps in upset that I am appearing to be anti-progression, I am not speaking about wool suits. Janet Evans and Mary T. and Kristina and Tracy, et al, did just fine in the pre-full body suits. Submitted by: paddles
May 12, 2009 Back to earlier comments. Descente has been making suits for years and owns Arena. They are primarily a skiing company so they have lots of experience with slippery fabrics. Submitted by: Coach Dude
May 12, 2009 Well it's been over a decade since full body suits so it seems unlikely they'd go back to briefs. The LZR was where the changes really accelerated so pre-LZR suits would be a more reasonable change back. but since speedo is a sponsor of US Swimming, the chances of even that would seem none to zero. Submitted by: liquidassets
May 13, 2009 Lets face it, suits used to be just to cover up for modesty etc. The smaller the briefs the better was deemed to be the way to improve performance. Shave down and that was it.
Lets not kid ourselves, with the larger coverage with the body suits it is PURELY FOR ENHANCEMENT PURPOSES there is no need either culturally or otherwise to have these suits at all.
The nearest thing to fairness would to swim nude! Therefore no possible enhancement from the suit. Now this is of course not possible, although it may generate more interest in the sport, which as we have heard previous bloggers have used as a reason to retain the suits!
Therefore any type of body suits etc are clearly designed and produced to enhance performance either pre or post 2008. The suits prior to 2008 attempted to produce a certain amount of enhancement. But still enhancement! If not why did swimmers use them rather than the briefs they were used to? Of course in the belief they would give them an advantage.
Keep things simple go back to briefs and swim suits used by Biondi, Popov, Evans etc
Then there is no possibility of enhancement. These suits were never a problem before so why now? Only money interests and those needing a crutch to lean on need these suits, true swimmers do not.
Submitted by: scotswim
May 13, 2009 Amen to that, scotswim! Submitted by: paddles
May 13, 2009 The principal point is: the clothes of rubber will be able to be personalized, the falsification will be able to happen.
Imagine an authorized clothes, but with espessuras differentiated in the hip, abdomen and superior leg?
Be no how, not even with paquímetro to check these measures in the body of the athlete!!
FINA, alone shame that that I have to speak!! Shame!!!! Submitted by: luiz
May 13, 2009 SwimInfo has posted an excellent article yesterday titled as a "Visionary look into the future of Aquatics" (sorry to SwimInfo if I got the title a little mixed up).
Everyone should read that.
All I could say after finishing it was "WOW".
I watched a show on the History channel about the technology of Star Trek and how sci-fi writers coming up with soundly scientific principled "wild ideas" were through the years taken by real scientists and made into reality or are being worked on for hopeful reality in the future.
The idea was simple: "If you can imagine it, there's a good chance we can do it".
Everyone thinks these suits are good/bad?
Read this article and see where we are going.
Some of the things I would heartily applaud and would be excited to have. Others make me cringe along the lines we are already headed with the suits.
Also, thanks to Coach Dude for the clarification about Descent/Arena. I had no idea about that, but it seems that not many other people knew that either. Seems like this is the first time that Descente has come out from the shadows to be recognized as a "co-inventor" of Irie's new suit.
But please catch this other article.
A very interesting read. Submitted by: rcoach
May 13, 2009 rcoach, I wonder how many who have expressed solid negation towards the "technological doping" are doing so because they remember the pharmaceutical doping and how, (1) the powers "that were" sat on their hands and turned a blind eye ALLOWING the cheating to continue and, (2) those of us who remember it, can see the technological advancements for what they are and are reacting out of that memory from the 70s, 80s AND into the 90s.
By the way, the article was excellent. Submitted by: paddles
May 13, 2009 Here is the link to the Article: http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/21088.asp Submitted by: Swimming World
May 13, 2009 I agree paddles.
There has to be some of that.
But my 2 main problems with what is going on have remained the same.
The allowance of these suits to make a sub-par swimmer into a swimmer of a level they have not earned or may ever be able to earn.
My biggest argument is this - coming from someone who deals with this as a coach who has absolutely seen this over the past 24 months and no one can convince me otherwise:
swimmer 1 = sub par attendance
swimmer 1 = sub par work ethic
swimmer 1 = sub par attention to stroke tech.
swimmer 1 = not fit generally(politely put)
swimmer 2 = the complete opposite of 1
Swimmer 1 puts on body suit and beats the pants off Swimmer 2 because the suit has allowed their body type to be in a better position than it normally would be able to, and does enough of the right things to help move them down the pool faster and helps make them 'survive' the race better. Then I am left to mop up from these suits with Swimmer 2 who is frustrated and upset because there was no way in the world that Swimmer 1 should have been in the race with Swimmer 2, let alone winning (Swimmer 2 has GREAT race/meet mentality by the way). And both go best times, but 2 is still doesn't understand.
I know this happens all the time without suits, but trust me, in some of the instances I see, the suit has made the difference. And I don't agree with that. Especially when throughout the season when we don't wear suits, Swimmer 1 is not even on the radar with Swimmer 2. When it is just swimmer to swimmer....using what they have developed/earned.
Problem 2 I have with the suits is one of your points. I think this whole issue has taken out eye off the issue of doping and trying to keep our sport clean. Before an "anomolous" performance was pretty easy to spot. But not now. Now we have to debate if it is the suit or the swimmer doing the time with the complete disregard to the fact that we should be spending our time and effort raising our voices to the roof about getting better drug testing in our sport which is 50 years behind the labs and doctors who produce cheaters (for the millionth time....shame on you FINA!!). The money is flowing into our sport more than ever before. We can't be naive to think that so will be the people who are willing to cheat to get that money, the same way it has been in track and cycling.
Anyway, if you can come up with something that does away with my 2 main problems, I will jump on board the suit band wagon. Until then, I have my problems with them. Submitted by: rcoach
May 13, 2009 I agree paddles.
There has to be some of that.
But my 2 main problems with what is going on have remained the same.
The allowance of these suits to make a sub-par swimmer into a swimmer of a level they have not earned or may ever be able to earn.
My biggest argument is this - coming from someone who deals with this as a coach who has absolutely seen this over the past 24 months and no one can convince me otherwise:
swimmer 1 = sub par attendance
swimmer 1 = sub par work ethic
swimmer 1 = sub par attention to stroke tech.
swimmer 1 = not fit generally(politely put)
swimmer 2 = the complete opposite of 1
Swimmer 1 puts on body suit and beats the pants off Swimmer 2 because the suit has allowed their body type to be in a better position than it normally would be able to, and does enough of the right things to help move them down the pool faster and helps make them 'survive' the race better. Then I am left to mop up from these suits with Swimmer 2 who is frustrated and upset because there was no way in the world that Swimmer 1 should have been in the race with Swimmer 2, let alone winning (Swimmer 2 has GREAT race/meet mentality by the way). And both go best times, but 2 is still doesn't understand.
I know this happens all the time without suits, but trust me, in some of the instances I see, the suit has made the difference. And I don't agree with that. Especially when throughout the season when we don't wear suits, Swimmer 1 is not even on the radar with Swimmer 2. When it is just swimmer to swimmer....using what they have developed/earned.
Problem 2 I have with the suits is one of your points. I think this whole issue has taken out eye off the issue of doping and trying to keep our sport clean. Before an "anomolous" performance was pretty easy to spot. But not now. Now we have to debate if it is the suit or the swimmer doing the time with the complete disregard to the fact that we should be spending our time and effort raising our voices to the roof about getting better drug testing in our sport which is 50 years behind the labs and doctors who produce cheaters (for the millionth time....shame on you FINA!!). The money is flowing into our sport more than ever before. We can't be naive to think that so will be the people who are willing to cheat to get that money, the same way it has been in track and cycling.
Anyway, if you can come up with something that does away with my 2 main problems, I will jump on board the suit band wagon. Until then, I have my problems with them. Submitted by: rcoach
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