﻿{"id":396393,"date":"2019-10-04T12:30:24","date_gmt":"2019-10-04T19:30:24","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/?p=396393"},"modified":"2019-10-04T12:24:31","modified_gmt":"2019-10-04T19:24:31","slug":"on-deck-with-barry-king-george-washington-water-polo-coach","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/on-deck-with-barry-king-george-washington-water-polo-coach\/","title":{"rendered":"On Deck With Barry King, George Washington Water Polo Coach"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>BRONX. NY. The compelling water polo news out of California\u2014where UC Santa Barbara and Pacific have made claim to territory traditionally occupied by the Big Four\u2014should not overshadow the story of George Washington&#8217;s men&#8217;s team. Qualifying for back-to-back NCAAs, including a quarterfinal spot in 2018 for the first time in program history, the Colonials (12-3; 3-0 MAWPC) have successfully adopted a mantra of just one more game to push on to greater success.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"276424\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/2017-mens-water-polo-preview-mid-atlantic-water-polo-conference\/gw\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/GW.png\" data-orig-size=\"268,188\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"GW\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;09\/04\/17&lt;br \/&gt;\nGW&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/GW.png\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/GW.png\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-276424\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/09\/GW.png\" alt=\"GW\" width=\"225\" height=\"158\" \/>If that model holds true, GW would become the first team from the East <a href=\"https:\/\/www.totalwaterpolo.com\/2016\/12\/03\/joy-berkeley-harvard-water-polo-fans-crimson-face-usc-final-four\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">since Harvard<\/a> in 2016 to advance to an NCAA semifinal match. Given a fast start and the talent on Head Coach <strong>Barry King&#8217;s<\/strong> roster\u2014as well as a narrowing of the talent gap between East and West\u2014that &#8220;One More&#8221; focus may hold true in 2019.<\/p>\n<p>First, King and the Colonials will need to conquer the Mid-Atlantic Water Polo Conference again. This is no simple matter; standing in the way of a three-peat are a talented and deep Bucknell squad (9-2; 2-1 MAWPC) , that features the one-two punch of senior <strong><span class=\"st\">Rade Joksimovic<\/span><\/strong> and freshman <strong>Andu Vlasceanu<\/strong>. That and a surprising Fordham team (12-3; 4-1 MAWPC), which has it&#8217;s own scoring tandem of senior <strong>Jake Miller-Tolt<\/strong> and sophomore <strong>Dimitris Koukias<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Last weekend <em>Swimming World<\/em> caught up with King as his team traveled to Fordham&#8217;s Col. Francis B. Messmore Aquatic Center and took down the host Rams by the score of 9-8\u2014the start of an unbeaten swing through the New York metropolitan area. The Colonials&#8217; coach the past three years spoke about his team&#8217;s past success and what it will take to extend what has been the greatest period of success in GW polo history.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Your team comes to the Bronx, setting for one of the most dramatic wins in Colonial history\u2014an overtime victory against Bucknell in the 2018 MAWPC final. Then GW gets a great comeback win over a very good Fordham squad.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m quite pleased with the outcome. We got to see [Fordham] play the last two weekends at Princeton and Bucknell, and we\u2019re quite concerned, especially if we weren\u2019t at full strength.<\/p>\n<p>To gut it out and not necessarily have things going our way early, I\u2019m pleased. We addressed a lot of the issues we were having in terms of construction offense.<\/p>\n<p>Their keeper [<strong>Bailey O&#8217;Mara<\/strong>] was playing pretty well for three quarters and we kinda found a way to sneak it around.<\/p>\n<p>That was just a good solid water polo game between two above average squads. We\u2019re looking to build on that and move<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_396414\" style=\"width: 1033px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-396414\" data-attachment-id=\"396414\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/on-deck-with-barry-king-george-washington-water-polo-coach\/gw-stanford-ncaa-oct19\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2200,1464\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;6.3&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D4&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1543536816&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;26&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;400&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.003125&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Stanford line up for NCAA action &#8211; Photo Courtesy: Swimming World&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-1024x681.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-396414\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-700x500.jpg\" alt=\"gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19\" width=\"1023\" height=\"681\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-280x186.jpg 280w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-450x299.jpg 450w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-1200x799.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-2000x1331.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-1352x900.jpg 1352w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-500x333.jpg 500w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/gw-stanford-NCAA-oct19-533x355.jpg 533w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1023px) 100vw, 1023px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-396414\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Colonials stand at attention at Stanford&#8217;s Avery Aquatic Center for 2018 NCAAs. Photo Courtesy: George Washington Athletics<\/p><\/div>\n<p>forward\u2014and when we can get everybody healthy we\u2019re going to be pretty dangerous.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; You go into conference play as two-time defending MAWPC champs. What will it take to make it three titles in a row?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think we can be considered the conference favorites without Atakan in the pool. But I like the experience this is getting people. If you want to talk about the full arc, I\u2019ve got guys who are getting valuable, meaningful time that are still going to be with me for two to three more years\u2014and have to know how to play without him in the pool.<\/p>\n<p>[<a href=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/2019-swimming-world-mens-water-polo-previews-mid-atlantic-water-polo-conference-east\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>2019 Swimming World Men\u2019s Water Polo Previews: Mid-Atlantic Water Polo Conference-East<\/em><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s where the true value of this is. At the end of the day we still need to win three games on November 20th, 21st and 22nd. So, it\u2019s meaning for this season is mitigated by: we\u2019ve just got to win in November, too.<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s nice to get some guys experience that haven\u2019t had the experience of not playing with [Atakan].<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Because of your program\u2019s success, you have to both focus on winning now and building for the future.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Winning and recruiting go hand-in-hand\u2026 or, one\u2019s the glove and one\u2019s the hand. It\u2019s been easier to attract players of a better level than GW\u2019s been able to in previous years. We have people paying attention to us that maybe wouldn\u2019t have five or six years ago. So that helps quite a bit.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_339357\" style=\"width: 535px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-339357\" data-attachment-id=\"339357\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/plus-one-george-washington-water-polo-beats-princeton-in-ncaa-opener\/gw-wins-nov18\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1045,760\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;NIKON D7500&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1543073601&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;116&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;2200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.002&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"gw-wins-nov18\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;gw-wins-nov18: DO NOT REUSE&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo Courtesy: Christine Yardley&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-1024x745.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-339357\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-700x500.jpg\" alt=\"gw-wins-nov18\" width=\"525\" height=\"382\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-533x388.jpg 533w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-275x200.jpg 275w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-1024x745.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-150x109.jpg 150w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18-500x364.jpg 500w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/gw-wins-nov18.jpg 1045w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-339357\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">GW celebrates win over Princeton in NCAA play-in match. Photo Courtesy: Christine Yardley<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I\u2019m not worried about the talent level. Now it\u2019s about chemistry\u2014who really fits and makes us better. I\u2019m looking for talented kids who are great teammates and make each other better. When you have that, then the sustainability of winning is a lot easier.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; What\u2019s the short-team impact of the Colonials\u2019 trip to an NCAA quarterfinal for the first time?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A little bit of that is happening right now. Our mantra last year was: \u201cOne More\u201d \u2014 and that really hasn\u2019t changed. Santa Barbara has instructed the universe this year that the difference between the best and the 20 has shrunk some. Everybody\u2019s better; the gaps between the four and the rest have disappeared.<\/p>\n<p>[<a href=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/uc-santa-barbara-aims-to-replicate-gauchos-1979-ncaa-championship-run\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>UC Santa Barbara Aims to Replicate Gauchos\u2019 1979 NCAA Championship Run<\/em><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>Our job is to put ourselves in position to play one more game than we did last year.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; Why does the Gauchos\u2019 success capture attention on the East Coast?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If you look historically, you have Pacific six years ago who jumped the shark in that particular season\u2026 number five has been getting better and better. The gap between four and five has been shrinking and in fact disappeared last year. That says to me that there\u2019s this upward surge moving forward from the GWs and UC San Diego and Princeton and Harvard.<\/p>\n<p>Right now, you could argue that there are five &#8211; six teams in the East that probably have their best team ever, in this year. That\u2019s not an accident.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; To that point, it seems this is a result of Eastern programs being successful enticing some of the top California players to forgo playing in the West.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s a fine-line situation. Yes, you want kids who come out of good programs, who have been taught well, who have played some high-level water polo. But you also don\u2019t want people who\u2019ve played their best water polo. And, you want people who are capable of making their teammates better. That\u2019s really where the Eastern groups are going to make jumps. And that\u2019s what Atakan\u2019s done for us.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_396413\" style=\"width: 535px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-396413\" data-attachment-id=\"396413\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/on-deck-with-barry-king-george-washington-water-polo-coach\/gw-water-polo-vs-navy-at-smith-center-october-19-2018\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"2200,1429\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;2.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;Gary A. Cameron&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;Canon EOS-1D X&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;GW Water Polo vs Navy at Smith Center  October 19, 2018&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1539973450&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;@Gary A. Cameron 2017&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;300&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;3200&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.0015625&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;GW Water Polo vs Navy at Smith Center  October 19, 2018&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"king-gw-coaching-oct19\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;GW Water Polo vs Navy at Smith Center October 19, 2018&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo Courtesy: Gary A. Cameron&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-1024x665.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-396413\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-700x500.jpg\" alt=\"GW Water Polo vs Navy at Smith Center October 19, 2018\" width=\"525\" height=\"341\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-280x182.jpg 280w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-1024x665.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-450x292.jpg 450w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-1200x779.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-2000x1299.jpg 2000w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-1386x900.jpg 1386w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-150x97.jpg 150w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-500x325.jpg 500w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/10\/king-gw-coaching-oct19-533x346.jpg 533w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 525px) 100vw, 525px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-396413\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">King makes a point to his players. Photo Courtesy: Gary A. Cameron<\/p><\/div>\n<p>That guy\u2019s one of the best teammates I\u2019ve ever been around. So, when he is making everybody better around him, then you\u2019re not just George Washington featuring <strong>Atakan Destici<\/strong>. You are a way better George Washington team. That\u2019s what you\u2019ve got to look at when some living room doors are open to you that haven\u2019t been in the past.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, he\u2019s talented but is that kid going to make everybody around him better?<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8211; One player that reflects very well on your program is Andrew Mavis, who has worked very hard to make himself better.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Those two together\u2026 we\u2019ve got some big holes to fill [when Destici and Mavis graduate]. We\u2019re not gonna replace them. But the job of making everybody better\u2014they\u2019ve taken that on, so whomever comes in and fills those positions is coming into just a way better situation than those guys inherited.<\/p>\n<p>[<a href=\"https:\/\/collegiatewaterpolo.org\/a-whole-new-level-george-washington-universitys-mavis-boosts-game-with-unique-summer-regimen\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><em>\u2018A Whole New Level\u2019: George Washington University\u2019s Mavis Boosts Game with Unique Summer Regimen<\/em><\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>That\u2019s the stuff that I\u2019m proudest of for them\u2014they\u2019ve been such good teammates and representatives of the program\u2014and have given the program real meaning and gravitas.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>BRONX. NY. 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