﻿{"id":307678,"date":"2018-05-03T05:00:57","date_gmt":"2018-05-03T12:00:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/?p=307678"},"modified":"2018-05-02T18:06:06","modified_gmt":"2018-05-03T01:06:06","slug":"after-cal-apprenticeship-yuri-suguiyama-gets-his-chance-at-wisconsin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/after-cal-apprenticeship-yuri-suguiyama-gets-his-chance-at-wisconsin\/","title":{"rendered":"After Cal Apprenticeship, Yuri Suguiyama Gets His Chance at Wisconsin"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>By David Rieder.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>One month after the 2016 Olympics, Cal men\u2019s coach <strong>Dave Durden<\/strong> accepted the coach of the year award from the American Swim Coaches Association. He thanked his family, his swimmers and his assistant, <strong>Yuri<\/strong> <strong>Suguiyama<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>Durden recalled how four years earlier, he had successfully convinced Sugiyama to come to Berkeley and leave behind the 15-year-old Olympic gold medalist he coached, <strong>Katie Ledecky<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBruce, you\u2019re welcome,\u201d Durden deadpanned, speaking to Ledecky\u2019s next coach, <strong>Bruce<\/strong> <strong>Gemmell<\/strong>. The room broke out laughing.<\/p>\n<p>In 2012, Suguiyama was one of swimming\u2019s hot young coaches after leading Ledecky to a stunning Olympic upset in the 800 free over hometown favorite <strong>Rebecca Adlington.<\/strong> Over the next five and a half years at Cal, his profile grew even further as the Bears won an NCAA championship and finished second nationally five times and the program placed five men onto the U.S. Olympic team.<\/p>\n<p>Now, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/yuri-suguiyama-takes-head-coaching-job-at-wisconsin\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Suguiyama will have the chance to lead his own team<\/a>, the Wisconsin Badgers.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think I finally got to a point in my tenure at Cal\u2014and this is largely to Dave Durden\u2019s credit\u2014to where I had seen every facet of a program,\u201d Suguiyama said. \u201cI can see how everything works and is put together, and I\u2019m ready to tackle that.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWhen I first got hired and I think any assistant that\u2019s starting out, you kind of have a little bit of a narrow view of what it means to run a college program. My first year there, my focus was just basically trying to write good workouts and connect with the athletes. There\u2019s so much more that goes into that.\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_307709\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-307709\" data-attachment-id=\"307709\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/after-cal-apprenticeship-yuri-suguiyama-gets-his-chance-at-wisconsin\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1200,800\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo Courtesy: Cal Athletics&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal-1024x683.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-307709\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal.jpg\" alt=\"dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" srcset=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal-533x355.jpg 533w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal-280x187.jpg 280w, https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/dave-durden-yuri-suguiyama-cal-1024x683.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-307709\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dave Durden &amp; Yuri Suguiyama &#8212; Photo Courtesy: Cal Athletics<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Suguiyama credited Durden for empowering him as a coach and helping him rise above workout-creator. Suguiyama saw the same growth in the swimmers they coached as Durden trusted them and gave them a chance to make their own imprint on the team.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDave does a lot of things really well, but Dave is a great leader because he creates leaders in his program,\u201d Suguiyama said.<\/p>\n<p>When those swimmers learned that Suguiyama was leaving for a new opportunity, the response from the team was anything but bitter. The swimmers, including those who would be losing their primary coach, were simply proud of the opportunity Suguiyama had earned.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI was incredibly touched by their response,\u201d Suguiyama said. \u201cThe guys, they were just happy for me. I don\u2019t think there was any animosity. There were no hard feelings. To a man, I just heard, \u2018We\u2019re really happy for you, and we\u2019re proud of you because you\u2019ve earned this.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Ledecky, too, was excited for her former coach\u2014and not just because, after years spent on opposite sides of the Cal-Stanford rivalry, Suguiyama would now join her in wearing red.<\/p>\n<p>During a recent phone call with <em>Swimming World<\/em>, Suguiyama gave thoughtful, detailed answers about why he took the Wisconsin job, his vision for the Badgers, how he plans to deal with the challenges of coaching a combined program, his biggest takeaways from coaching a young Ledecky and his proudest moments as a coach.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><strong>This is your first collegiate head coaching job. What did you need to see and hear before you would decide to leave the position you had at Cal?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the No. 1 thing I needed to see and hear was just the level of support for the program. That was something that stood out to me from my very first conversation with the administration when they reached out, not only with swimming and diving specifically and just with the athletic department as a whole, and it\u2019s been something I\u2019ve been blown away by, the passion that people have for athletics here in Madison, the unified front that everyone has.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cJust walking around, just the sense of camaraderie really stood out to me. As a coach, you want to make sure that you feel supported by the administration, and (athletic director\u00a0<strong>Barry<\/strong>)\u00a0<strong>Alvarez<\/strong> and <strong>Marija<\/strong> <strong>Pientka<\/strong>, one of the senior associate ADs, I felt that from day one\u2014very opening and welcome, very transparent to the whole process. It\u2019s the type of relationship that I think every head coach wants to have with their administrators.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAnd then honestly, the facilities. I think all of us in the Olympic sports world, we\u2019re very conscious of where we stand in regards to a department\u2019s financial health, so the fact that this department is building a new facility that\u2019s going to come online in the fall of 2019, that told me all I needed to know about the health of the program and the fact that the swimming and diving programs weren\u2019t going to be going anywhere for a long, long time.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Before Wisconsin, you had been rumored for some other jobs. How serious did those opportunities get before this one came to fruition?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI interviewed for two positions last summer, and I had good experiences with both. I really did. I think in a lot of ways, those experiences prepared me to be better prepared for Wisconsin. You have to go through it and see it, and I\u2019m someone who usually does better the second time around. I was able to better anticipate some of the questions and better anticipate some of the ways to deliver the message.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s your initial analysis for what\u2019s already there at Wisconsin?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s good swimmers here in this program. I think one thing that has always stood out about Wisconsin, not just the swimming and diving program but in the department in general is this feeling of hard work and this blue-collar atmosphere. I think that\u2019s a great thing because, as a coach, you always want to work with athletes that are hard workers.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>The most impressive Wisconsin swimmer last year was Beata Nelson\u2014three finals at the NCAA championships. What do you see as her role in this program going forward?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_300750\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-300750\" data-attachment-id=\"300750\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/after-cal-apprenticeship-yuri-suguiyama-gets-his-chance-at-wisconsin\/beata-nelson-6\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/beata-nelson-2018-wncaa-2910-e1538194031680.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"900,675\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"beata-nelson-2018-wncaa 2910\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;12\/4\/18&lt;br \/&gt;\n9\/28\/18&lt;br \/&gt;\nbeata-nelson- 100 Backstroke, 2018, Nelson Beata, Wisconsin Swimming, Womens NCAA S&amp;amp;D&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo Courtesy: Peter H. Bick&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/beata-nelson-2018-wncaa-2910-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/beata-nelson-2018-wncaa-2910-1024x768.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-300750\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/beata-nelson-2018-wncaa-2910.jpg\" alt=\"beata-nelson-\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-300750\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Beata Nelson &#8212; Photo Courtesy: Peter H. Bick<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cI want to get to know Beata. It\u2019s the job of any coach to put their athletes in a position to be successful. Obviously, Beata is somebody who is a leader on the team by nature of her performance\u2014she scored the most points on the women\u2019s team this year\u2014but that doesn\u2019t necessarily mean that she would be expected to be a leader outside the pool.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m going to have to get to know Beata, find out what her strengths are, find out what she\u2019s comfortable with, because maybe she is someone who would rather lead by example and lead a lane every day and obviously perform really well at dual meets and at conference meets. Sometimes your best leaders are not only your fastest leaders or your best divers. Sometimes it\u2019s the people who are most consistent in that behavior day in and day out.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019ve been coaching men for the past six years. What are the challenges of coaching a bigger program and having women and men alongside each other?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe biggest thing that comes to mind is making sure each team has its own identity but making sure that they also understand that we\u2019re all in this together and everyone\u2019s actions in the pool and in the weight room and on the boards are going to be impacting one another.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBy nature of the schedule, there are times in every combined program where the teams are going to be swimming together, and I think that\u2019s awesome. There are a lot of positives to that. But I think as a head coach and staff, you have to work to create situations where maybe a handful of times a week the men\u2019s team is training together and then the women\u2019s team is training together.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the challenge for me is making sure that each of the teams has its own identity so when it comes time for conference or NCAAs, there\u2019s not that, \u2018Oh, well, the guys usually lead the cheers,\u2019 or \u2018The girls are usually the ones standing down the pool cheering.\u2019 Ideally, you want to get to a point where the teams are self-sufficient but also understand that, \u2018We\u2019re all in this together. We\u2019re all going to be working towards a common goal.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did you learn from coaching Katie Ledecky?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_101637\" style=\"width: 410px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-101637\" data-attachment-id=\"101637\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.swimmingworldmagazine.com\/news\/were-you-a-junior-national-qualifier-four-olympians-who-got-their-start-at-juniors\/ledecky_katie2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Ledecky_Katie2.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"900,650\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Ledecky_Katie2\" data-image-description=\"&lt;p&gt;Katie Ledecky at the 2012 US Olympic Trials&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo Courtesy: Peter H. Bick&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Ledecky_Katie2-700x500.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Ledecky_Katie2.jpg\" class=\"wp-image-101637\" src=\"https:\/\/vmrw8k5h.tinifycdn.com\/news\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/07\/Ledecky_Katie2.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"289\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-101637\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Katie Ledecky after making the 2012 Olympic team &#8212; Photo Courtesy: Peter H. Bick<\/p><\/div>\n<p>\u201cThere\u2019s three things. One, I learned the value of having a plan. On one hand, it was like, what do we want to accomplish this year and what\u2019s the progression to get to that point? And the second thing was, what\u2019s best for her long-term down the road? I learned the value of a training progression and a plan through the career.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe second thing was the idea of always reminding an athlete that no matter where you are and what you\u2019ve accomplished, you belong there. Katie might not have needed to hear that because she has some innate things that make her great that didn\u2019t come from me or <strong>Carolyn Kaucher\u00a0<\/strong>before me or Bruce after me or <strong>Greg<\/strong> (<strong>Meehan<\/strong>) after him. There are just some things Katie has that make her great. For me, it was just reminding her that she belonged at every level and never to get too high or too low.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI talked to <strong>Gregg Troy<\/strong> and <strong>Teri McKeever<\/strong> in the spring of 2012 at the Charlotte UltraSwim a couple months before Trials. I just remember talking to them both, and Gregg in particular just said, \u2018Olympic Trials is the most overcoached meet in the world. Don\u2019t overcoach her.\u2019 I always tried to be aware of that. The athletes know when a big moment is coming up, and they\u2019re already going to be anxious enough. For me, the last thing I wanted to do as a young coach was to portray any anxieties I had onto her. I definitely did, but I think it was just trying to keep a level head, acknowledge each step of the process and always keep an eye to the future.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe last thing I learned was how important it is to create a culture. I always felt like I could never control the type of athlete that walked onto the pool deck, but I could control what they walked into. When I look back on my time with Katie, I think that the thing that I\u2019m most proud about was I had done enough research, I had been to enough clinics, I had talked to enough coaches that when I did have someone like Katie, with her skillset, come into the program, I had prepared myself to be able to handle that.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What\u2019s been your proudest moment as a coach?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think the easiest thing is to look back and remember performances, but I think a lot of my proudest moments are the growth, when you look back and see the changes in someone over the course of their career or their time with you and you see that they\u2019ve grown up.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI\u2019m always amazed at when the guys come in as 18, they\u2019re sharp, they do a good job, but to watch them seniors, to look at them and say, \u2018You are a very capable human being now.\u2019 A lot of that had to do with the culture that Dave set up and the way that we ran the team. I think a lot of my proudest moments come from when the kids reach back out to you or you hear about them having success.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIn terms of races, my most memorable races that stand out in my mind\u2014you know what, I don\u2019t want to go down that road because I\u2019m probably going to miss a couple.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By David Rieder. One month after the 2016 Olympics, Cal men\u2019s coach Dave Durden accepted the coach of the year award from the American Swim Coaches Association. 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