Updated May 20 with updated suit list resolving 199/202 discrepancy explained in article.
LAUSANNE, Switzerland, May 19. AFTER burning the midnight oil, the FINA Commission has released its list of approved swimwear through December 31, 2009.
Here is the full press release from FINA:
The FINA Commission in charge of the swimwear approval, formed by representatives of the FINA Executive, FINA Technical Swimming Committee, FINA Coaches Commission, FINA Athletes Commission, and FINA Legal Councillor had a meeting on May 18, 2009 in Lausanne (SUI) and after reviewing 348 swimsuits from 21 manufacturers forwarded its proposal to the FINA Executive, who decided the following:
- 202 swimsuits approved;
- 10 swimsuits rejected for not passing the tests of buoyancy and/or thickness;
- 136 swimsuits to be modified in accordance with "Dubai Charter" rule 3.1 c), as they don't fulfill the requirement stating that "swimsuit material shall not be constructed to or include elements/systems which create air/water trapping effects during use". The manufacturers have now a deadline of maximum 30 days (until June 19, 2009) to resubmit the same swimsuit for FINA approval, with the corresponding corrections ("Dubai Charter" rule 4.3 d).
Meeting FINA/Swimming Coaches
On May 19, 2009 FINA and a group of swimming coaches coming from 18 countries met at the EPFL (Swiss Federal Institute of Technology) in Lausanne (SUI), where Prof Jan-Anders Manson, Director of the Laboratory of Polymer and Composite Technology, presented the procedures of the testing process defined on the FINA swimwear approval regulations.
The exchange of opinions was very constructive and the direction to be taken on the swimwear approval process is certainly better understood.
At the bottom of this article is the list in full of approved swimsuit models at least through December 31, 2009. A discrepancy was discovered and reported by Swimming World that the initial list of approved suits only included 199 suits. That number did not match up with the FINA press release stating that 202 suits had made the initial cut.
Upon being informed of the discrepancy, FINA updated its list to resolve the discrepancy. The three suits added to the initial list were Speedo suits: LZR Racer full, LZR Racer pants - long and LZR Racer pants - short.
Additionally, the updated list has a different Rocket Science Sports suit listed in place of the "Swimskin Suit Sleeveless full." It is now listed as the "Rocket 2skin full."
In answer to a Swimming World inquiry, FINA has stated that it is against the organization's policies to release a disallowed list. From a branding standpoint, being put on a list like that would be the death knell for a product even though manufacturers can go back to the drawing board and resubmit.
A second phase of testing regarding permeability will take place at the end of the year.
One big name left off the approved list was the blueseventy. The company has released its thoughts on the matter:
Today FINA released its list of approved suits for the World Championships in July. FINA rejected 10 high-tech racing suits and approved 199 others with 136 swimsuits to be modified in accordance with the "Dubai Charter".
blueseventy submitted 11 models of suits for FINA approval, including tights and jammers. At this time, blueseventy suits are not listed on FINA's site as approved models, but one of the 136 that need to be modified, and this includes the models that had previously been submitted (in late 2007) and had received approval.
blueseventy is stunned by this omission. "As a company, and personally, we were very comfortable with the criteria for testing that FINA had outlined, our suits passed well under the threshold for buoyancy and thickness proposed by them," stated blueseventy's Global Marketing Manager, Dean Jackson. "We have had confirmation that our suits passed the independent laboratory testing for both of these tests."
Officially blueseventy is classified as one of the suits that "may cause significant air trapping when worn by the swimmers." However, there are several other similar brands with suits that use exactly the same fabric, with a similar construction, that have passed without a problem. This confusing situation has led the company to seek clarification directly from FINA and blueseventy is awaiting their response.
blueseventy has 30 days to make modifications to the suit so that it no longer traps air, but the system around this is unclear since trapping air is not a measurable value and the subjective nature of this "testing" is not black or while. Initially the Dubai Charter and resubmission of these suits was in order to gain acceptance for the Rome World championships and it is blueseventy's understanding that previously approved suits remain legal for all competitions.
"We are dedicated to working on the best solution to the short-term situation and will work closely with FINA on this process," said Roque Santos, blueseventy Vice President of Swimming. "Most importantly, we care about swimmers, we care about our company and we care about fair play for all brands in this process."
Two other significant omissions are the Arena X-Glide and the Jaked J01, which have been worn during world record performances this year. One question that FINA will need to answer is whether world records set this year in these now disallowed suits will be ratified.
Also missing from the list is the TYR Titan and the Aquazone Renegade.
In other news, U.S. Masters Swimming released the following statement regarding the impact of the FINA ruling on Masters in the U.S.
While FINA has listed the 202 approved swimsuits, FINA has NOT listed the 10 suits that have been "rejected for not passing the tests of buoyancy and/or thickness" or made a ruling on the "136 swimsuits to be modified in accordance with "Dubai Charter"." Until FINA provides the definitive list of banned swimsuits and specific actions on the 136, we should not report any suit as banned in a USMS sanctioned event.
With FINA's policy of not releasing banned suit information, Masters swimers in the U.S. will likely be swimming in whatever suit they want until further notice.
adidas (5)
TechfitPowerweb S8140602BJ B85779 full
TechfitPowerweb S8140603BJ B85777SL full
TechfitPowerweb S8140609BJ B85762 full - knee
TechfitPowerweb S8140607BJ B85768 pants - long
TechfitPowerweb S8140606BJ B85771 pants - short
Agon Sport L.L.C. (3)
2009 full - knee
2009 pants - long
2009 pants - short
Akron SRL (3)
Halifax Allison full
Halifax Buster full
Halifax Ark pants - long
Arena Italia S.p.A. (29)
Powerskin 2512450 full
Powerskin 2512850 full
Powerskin 2512550 full
Powerskin 2710650 pants - long
Powerskin 2906850 classic
Powerskin 2710550 pants-short
Powerskin R-Evolution 2522850 full
Powerskin R-Evolution 2522750 full
Powerskin R-Evolution 2522650 full
Powerskin R-Evolution 2786650 full - knee
Powerskin R-Evolution 2522550 full - knee
Powerskin R-Evolution 2522450 full - knee
Powerskin R-Evolution 2786250 pants- long
Powerskin R-Evolution 2786550 pants-short
Powerskin R-evolution + 2525650 full
Powerskin R-evolution + 2525450 full
Powerskin R-evolution + 2525350 full
Powerskin R-evolution + 2525750 full - knee
Powerskin R-evolution + 2525550 full - knee
Powerskin R-evolution + 2790050 pants - long
Powerskin X-treme 2513850 full
Powerskin X-treme 2514350 full
Powerskin X-treme 2513950 full
Powerskin X-treme 2513750 full - knee
Powerskin X-treme 2514450 full - knee
Powerskin X-treme 2514250 full - knee
Powerskin X-treme 2731750 pants - long
Powerskin X-treme 2925450 classic
Powerskin X-treme 2737650 pants-short
Asics Corporation (35)
TIL ALS503 full
TIL ALS505 full
TIL AMA503 pants - long
TIL AMA502 pants - short
TIL ALS502 pants - short
TIL ALS500 classic
TIL ALS504 classic
TIL AMA501 classic
TIL ALS501 classic
TIL - Cloth AMX964-4 full
TIL - Cloth ALX964-5 full
TIL - Cloth ALX964-6 full
TIL - Cloth AMX964-3 pants - long
TIL - Functional Layered System AMA515 full
TIL - Functional Layered System ALS515 full
TIL - Functional Layered System AMA516 pants - long
TIL - Functional Layered System AMA511 inner tights
TIL - Functional Layered System ALS511 inner tights
TIL - Functional Layered System AMA510 inner top
TIL - Functional Layered System ALS510 inner top
TIL + AMX1087 full
TIL + AMX1087-2 full
TIL + AMX1087 full
TIL + AMX1098 full
TIL + AMX1086 full
TIL + AMX1085 full
TIL + ALX1085-2 full
TIL + ALX1085 full
TIL + ALX1086 full
TIL + ALX1098 full
TIL + AMX1088 pants - long
TIL + AMX1088-2 pants - long
TIL + AMX1088 pants - long
TIL + AMX1083 classic
TIL + ALX1083 classic
Descente LTD (27)
III jan09 full
III jan09 full
III jan09 full
III jan09 full - knee
III jan09 pants - long
III jan09 pants - short
IV jan09 full
IV jan09 full
IV jan09 full
IV jan09 full - knee
IV jan09 pants - long
IV jan09 pants - short
I mar09 full
I mar09 pants - long
I mar09 full
I mar09 full
I mar09 classic
I mar09 full - knee
I mar09 classic
I mar09 pants - short
III mar09 full
III mar09 full
III mar09 full
III mar09 full - knee
III mar09 pants - long
III mar09 pants - short
III mar09 classic
Diana Sport (14)
Submarine Shinning Arrow 232M SA full
Submarine Shinning Arrow 250W SA full
Submarine Shinning Arrow 251W SA full
Submarine Shinning Arrow 233M SA full - knee
Submarine Shinning Arrow 253W SA full - knee
Submarine Shinning Arrow 230M SA pants - long
Submarine Thermo Fusion 202M full
Submarine Thermo Fusion 210W full
Submarine Thermo Fusion 221W full
Submarine Thermo Fusion 203M full - knee
Submarine Thermo Fusion 213W full - knee
Submarine Thermo Fusion 200M pants - long
Submarine Thermo Fusion 201M pants - short
Submarine Thermo Fusion 219W classic
Finis Inc. (11)
Amphibian pants - long
Amphibian ATS8-LTM28 pants - long
Amphibian ATS8-JM28 pants - short
Amphibian Long John ATS8-LJM32 full
Amphibian Long John ATS8-LJF30 full
Amphibian Short John ATS8-SJM31 full - knee
Amphibian Short John ATS8-SJF30 full - knee
Hydrospeed 2 Brief 1.10.131.101.28 classic
Hydrospeed 2 Clipback 1.10.024.101.28 classic
Hydrospeed 2 Jammer 1.10.132.101.28 pants - short
Hydrospeed 2 Race John 1.10.025.101.28 full - knee
Jaked SRL (2)
J03 full
J03 pants - long
Kiwami (1)
Kameleon full - knee
Mizuno Corporation (17)
Accel Suits full
Accel Suits pants - long
Swimsuit A 85RB-100 full
Swimsuit A 85RB-101 full
Swimsuit A 85OB-100 full
Swimsuit A 85OB-110
Swimsuit A 85OB-111 full
Swimsuit A 85RB-10009 full
Swimsuit A 85RD-100 pants - short
Swimsuit A 85RC-100 pants - long
Water gene 85RB-850 full
Water gene 85OB-850 full
Water gene 85OB-851 full
Water gene 85OC-850 full - knee
Water gene 85OD-850 pants - long
Water gene 85RC-850
Water gene 85RD-850
Orca (2)
RS1 full - knee
RS1 full - knee
Rocket Science Sports (7)
Rocket Light classic
Rocket Light
Rocket Sprinter
Rocket Sprinter
Rocket Trainer classic
Rocket Trainer
Swimskin Suit Sleeveless full (Now listed as Rocket 2skin full)
Sailfish GmbH (2)
Sailfish furious full - knee
Sailfish furious long full
Speedo (31+3=34)
(editor's note: the original list of approved suits released on May 19 had Speedo with 31 entries. To rectify the discrepancy between the FINA press release stating 202 suits were approved, but only 199 were on the list, FINA releases a new list on May 20. Speedo had three more suits on that list.)
Original 31
Flying Fish body no arms 8-05887 full
Flying Fish Body no arms 8-05889 full
Flying Fish Brief 8-05892 classic
Flying Fish Jammer 8-05891 pants - short
Flying Fish Legskin 8-05890 pants - long
Flying Fish recordbreaker bodyskin 8-05886 full
Flying Fish recordbreaker kneeskin 8-05885 full - knee
Flying Fish strikeback 8-05888 classic
LZR Racer Pro Body Skin No Arms full
LZR Racer Pro Body Skin No Arms full
LZR Racer Pro Jammer pants - short
LZR Racer Pro Leg Skin pants - long
LZR Racer Pro Record Breaker classic
LZR Racer Pro Record Breaker Body full
LZR Racer Pro Record Breaker Knee Skin full - knee
Japanese LZR Hybrid SPE015 full
Japanese LZR Hybrid SPE015 full
Japanese LZR Hybrid SPE015 full - knee
Japanese LZR Hybrid SPE015 pants - long
Japanese LZR Hybrid SPE015 pants-short
Fastskin Pro 8 008093218 pants - short
Fastskin Pro 8 008133218 full
Fastskin Pro 8 008153218 classic
Fastskin Pro 8 008143218 full - knee
Fastskin Pro 8 008053218 full
Aquablade 8 205157031 classic
Aquablade 10 072 7031 classic
Aquablade 8 101077031 pants - short
Fastskin 8 100090001 pants - short
Fastskin 8 100080001 pants - long
Fastskin 8 202230001 full - knee
Updated list additions
LZR Racer full
LZR Racer pants - long
LZR Racer pants - short
Sports Hig (5)
F-09 full
M-12 pants- long
M-01A pants- long
M-10 pants- long
M-08 pants- long
Tyr Sports Inc. (3)
A12 full
A7 full
A10 full
(editor's note: TYR has responded that the three suits approved are the Tracer Rise, the Tracer Light and a suit in development.)
Yamamotohokosyo Corporation (2)
YH-M-F pants - long
YH-M-F2 pants - long
Search For More News About: FINA
Reaction Time Comments
Reaction Time responses do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions
of Swimming World Magazine or SwimmingWorldMagazine.com.
Reaction Time is provided as a service to our readers.
May 19, 2009 What's the Speedo "Flying Fish?" Some new suit I should know about?
So any confirmation on if or if not Bernard's and Efimova's world records stand? If Efimova's does not, she also set one in the semi-finals, possibly in an old suit, and also Valentina Arteyneva's also been faster than Jade Edmistone's time.
Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 19, 2009 Also no Jaked 01 (which apparently was the one with all the world records) or TYR Titan. Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 19, 2009 This is insane. What happened to the days when the only thing separating the various suits from one another were the designs, colors or patterns????? Submitted by: paddles
May 19, 2009 In the past when you break a WR, they come for your blood. Now, you have to give blood and strip. Yee haw! Submitted by: joebob
May 19, 2009 this is a SHAME. why is LZR in that list??? i know the answer: "because speedo sponsors fina and the american team". A REAL SHAME! Submitted by: diesis
May 19, 2009 Yes, some explanation may be needed. I'm also bewildered how any of the LZR series passed the tests. Submitted by: Ross Bogue
May 19, 2009 Bernard and Efimova wore the X-Glide when they broke their records so I don't expect them to stand.
Also, any surprise for suits on the list should not be too high, this was a pretty basic test they did, the next list of approved suits will be a lot smaller. If a suit failed this, that is just sad, it would be interesting to know the 10 suits that flat out failed. Submitted by: SWIMSID
May 19, 2009 Several of the failed suits have been purchased by Goodyear for expanded coverage of next year's BCS games. Seems they don't even need to be filled with helium. At least, that's what I've heard... Submitted by: lion_king
May 19, 2009 No BLUE 70! Can you believe it? But, LZR is approved? I don't know what to say....I guess that Speedo's big money continues to ruin our sport. So disappointing. At least the Jaked got the boot. Submitted by: onebigdog
May 19, 2009 Does anyone know the exact suit Irie was wearing when he broke the 200m backstroke record? Does anyone expect his record to stand? Submitted by: Philipmj24
May 19, 2009 Does anyone know the exact suit Irie was wearing when he broke the 200m backstroke record? Does anyone expect his record to stand? Submitted by: Philipmj24
May 19, 2009 Irie wore a new suit developed jointly by Arena
Japan and Descente. Submitted by: joebob
May 20, 2009 Apparently, blueseventy submitted 10 models that failed, and 1 that needs to be modified:
http://www.blueseventy.com/news/story/blueseventy_addresses_finas_suit_approvals Submitted by: Rókur
May 20, 2009 Don't see the speedo brief circa 1990's style that I race in on the list! Does that mean I have to go out and buy one of these on the list to compete now!!!???
What a shambles!!
Response to dieses aboves comment about LZR being on the list "because speedo sponsors fina" should that not read owns FINA???
Whatever happened to the rule that didn't allow suits to be performance enhancing??? Oh, yes I forgot it was changed to suit the LZR wasn't it???
All performance enhancing suits should be banned. Submitted by: scotswim
May 20, 2009 FINA has no right to NOT approve records set in Jaked or B70 or TYR Titan, as they were all legal at the time. X-Glide is another story. Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 20, 2009 FINA states that, yes, this is "The complete list of approved swimsuits". So I guess we will have to use this list as our shopping list, from now on. Submitted by: Rókur
May 20, 2009 SwimDER94,
The way I understand it is that most world records set in a Jaked suit this year were set in the new Jaked model which is not on the list and had never been previously approved by FINA. Therefore, FINA should, in fact, reject those records. Submitted by: dcswimguy
May 20, 2009 really? is everyone really in that much of an uproar? the LZR-race was nothing compared to the blue seventy. alone the blue seventy could hold up a five pound weight in water, LZR about three. i agree the LZR probably shouldn't be on the list. but the majority of the fabric is LZR-pulse. the stuff they use in FS-pros. and as everyone knows its light, and is pretty much useless after a few swims.
i personally enjoy the FS pro. a light fabric that provides compression and doesn't screw up the playing field. i mean the fact that these suits were so bouyant 01Jaked, LZR, blue seventy, TYR rise, TYR titan, TYR Sayonara, Arena X-Glide, Aquazone Renegade etc etc. the point is these suits [aren't right].
and so what if Speedo donates to FINA, how do you know that the money is the reason the LZR is approved. Does it seem sketch? Yea, but at least there is one suit that is unanimously the best right now.
well in the end, swimming is about the water and winning. so lets just leave this smudge in swimming history behind us and keep moving forward Submitted by: akoreankid
May 20, 2009 akoreankid, I really liked your description of this suit fiasco being nothing more than a "smudge in swimming history."
Ok everyone, off with the rubber and back into nylon (or whatever is being used at the moment lol).
Lastly, I would like to see briefs come back. Ok, so they don't hide the sins from last nights chocolate cake and pull me upwards and in and God knows where else, but at least they don't rip when putting them on AND no one asks what suit I was wearing after a PR. Submitted by: paddles
May 20, 2009 One more thing. This morning I got to thinking about Inge de Bruin's world record for the 100 meter butterfly. Done in a body suit from 2000 at the Sydney Olympics. What would that 56.6 be in today's LZR full body? Any thoughts? Submitted by: paddles
May 20, 2009 dcswimguy, the way I understand it, the Jaked 01 WAS approved from early this year to yesterday. There was no major contraversy about the legality of the records. If it wasn't legal, how did so many athletes get their hands on them? If this is the way it is, they could not take away Jaked records without taking away Blueseventy records (of which there are almost too many to count). Submitted by: SwimDER94
May 20, 2009 The remark above -- "a light fabric that provides compression and doesn't screw up the playing field" -- caught my eye.
That it provides compression is, in fact, one of the results increasingly being scrutinzed as screwing up the playing field. The same can be said, to an extent, about any of the body suits, jammers to full-length, that came on the market after the 1992 Olympics. People just didn't quite realize the benefits and consequences of that compression until recently. And unfortunately. Submitted by: Charlie
May 20, 2009 I say back to the "budgie smugglers" for the guys. That will settle all arguments because there will be no aid from the swimsuit. Submitted by: Cobber
May 20, 2009 I agree with akoreankid... of course a woven fabric (LZR) is going to be less bouyant than neoprene. I have to imagine speedo has a lot more money to spend on R&D than the other guys..so least they are doing the research and not just modifying a wetsuit... but then again it drives the argument of price, they have to regain the development costs somehow. Seems like a big cluster for everyone... especially swimmers. Submitted by: cmorun
May 21, 2009 If the 136 suits need to be modified, the current versions of the suits should not be allowed. Any previous use or use without modification should not be permitted. How will you know if the suit is modified? Will we need "Suit Police" at all meets? Submitted by: Swim Wizard
May 21, 2009 It's just inexcusable that a sport could cause this kind of self-inflicted wound. To allow swimmers to use suits in major worldwide competitions for over a year, then retroactively outlaw them is beyond the pale. Either the entire FINA Commission was asleep at the wheel, or they are incompetent. Swimming deserves better leadership. Before this is over, swimming will suffer it's first corporate scandal. Submitted by: fluidg
May 21, 2009 One reasonably simple solution would be to price cap the cost of suits and insist on a one year warranty. This would aid the available to all scenario - they would have to sell to a lot more people to recoup there investment, rather than lots to the elite.
Speedo et al should be looking to have suits worn by the top swimmers avaiable and saleable to casual swimmers. I have yet to see these suits hanging up in the windows of high street sports stores(and therefore available to all).For this reason alone they should be bannned. Submitted by: philjha
May 22, 2009 to fluidg, i can't agree with you remark. we've had a suit since the Sydney olympics and earlier. starting notably w/ the aquablade and fs I. if you want to follow through with your argument we should've stopped the originals suits.
the swim community didn't see those suits as a threat as they originally came out as many people could still beat them. but as time came on it was a huge surprise that suits could force the body into correct position and keep them afloat, everything individuals had once trained for.
so the point is i don't think it was poor leadership, because most of us were caught off our guard by these suits. we didn't expect easy second drops by the fastest competitors in the world.
like i said before, we can't wallow in the past. we pick up where we left off, fix it and keep swimming as we always have. swimming is too noble a sport to wallow in our mistakes, it through preservation and determination that you get great swimmers, and great swimming. Submitted by: akoreankid
May 22, 2009 Just a point to akoreankid's post.
In regard to the bodysuits from 99 to 07 where this all spawns from. If you go back and look at some of the most aware voices in our sport, there were definitely some of them shouting as loudly as they could from the roof tops about the dangers of these body suits.
I just pulled an old Swimnews I have (sorry to SwimmingWorld for mentioning the competition) from 1999 (can't remember the month) and there are people in there screaming about the dangers of these "new" suits and where it could lead us. And those quotes have turned so prophetic it's almost bloody scary.
There were people warning us all. Not many of us (myself included--guilty) were listening.
FINA was definitely not listening. They saw Thorpy in his 'man in black' guise (and others--not trying to pin this on Thorpe at all), and saw dollar signs and something that could make the sport 'cool' and thereby put butts in the seats and bring in cash.
I do have to ask fluidg....you say that FINA is either "asleep at the wheel or they are incompetent". C'mon why be so conservative? Why not both??
Unfortunately this whole mess is going to get worse before it gets better. Unfortunately that vibration under our feet is the sound of lawyers herding for stampede.
But let's remember that this is a process that was not set in motion in 2007....that was just the breaking or tipping point. This was set in motion back in the mid to late 90's (when the original technology was formed) and this storm has been on the horizon for a LONG time, we have all just chosen to keep sailing and not to pay attention to the storm clouds that were gathering around us.
Now we have to ride out the storm and hope we don't capsize.
No matter how against these suits some people are now, unfortunately we all have a part to play in this situation as we could have done something about it a long time ago. We all chose not to.
Maybe it is time not only to say "For shame on FINA" but also to be honest and to say "For shame on all of us". Submitted by: rcoach
May 22, 2009 rcoach, I can always depend on you to say things so succinctly. Well done. Submitted by: paddles
May 22, 2009 In my humble opinion, the purpose of a suit should be to provide the athlete with a modicum of common decency, nothing more.
All lycra. Hips to crotch for guys. Shoulders to crotch for the girls.
But, I'm sure that would pretty much kill sponsorship from Speedo, Tyr, Arena, et. al., so small hope there.
I enjoyed swimming because it was a very pure sport. Just the swimmer and the water. Everyone had an equal footing, played by the same rules. Maybe someday we'll get to a similar place again.
Submitted by: Lurchenstien
May 25, 2009 rcoach, thanks for that enlightenment. my bad and i enjoy your opinion Submitted by: akoreankid
May 26, 2009 May 26, 2009 Does anyone know about the Aquazone Renegade suit? At the time it was the only speedsuit I could find for my son when he was heading to a big meet with all his competition already in speedsuits. I, but not likely he, would be happy to see fina require men to wear a lycra banana hammock.
Submitted by: entropy Submitted by: entropy
May 26, 2009 i'm pretty sure the renegade is banned. its not on the list and its pretty much a knock of the blue seventy which is banned Submitted by: akoreankid
May 27, 2009 Ref technology advances in athletics. Track changes from cinder to whatever they are today is more like the additions of bigger lane ropes, changing the temperature of water etc. which swimming has and does do. Athletics does not allow the runners to wear devices that increase speed. Look at the furore over Pistorius(spelling?) and his artificial legs.
These suits are the same they are a device to aid swimmers, athletics would never allow such devices. Submitted by: philjha
May 27, 2009 Blue 70 out? So what are Nike clubs supposed to use? Submitted by: MattR
June 2, 2009 HELP!?
My son wears a:
Fastskin FS-PRO Legskin (leggings/pants)
Product Code: 7050172
Can anyone tell me if this is acceptable. I see Fastskin pants, but in Fastskin Pro, I only see Submitted by: HerculesMom
June 2, 2009 HELP!?
My son wears a:
Fastskin FS-PRO Legskin (leggings/pants)
Product Code: 7050172
Can anyone tell me if this is acceptable. I see Fastskin pants, but in Fastskin Pro, I only see:
Fastskin Pro 8 008093218 pants - short
Fastskin Pro 8 008133218 full
Fastskin Pro 8 008153218 classic
Fastskin Pro 8 008143218 full - knee
Fastskin Pro 8 008053218 full
Wouldn't you think that the pants would be listed here too??? Or are they and I'm missing it?
My son has a meet TONIGHT! His coach just emailed this list AFTER PRACTICE last night! I've been looking into this for hours with no luck for an answer
Submitted by: HerculesMom
June 2, 2009 HELP!?
My son wears a:
Fastskin FS-PRO Legskin (leggings/pants)
Product Code: 7050172
Can anyone tell me if this is acceptable. I see Fastskin pants, but in Fastskin Pro, I only see:
Fastskin Pro 8 008093218 pants - short
Fastskin Pro 8 008133218 full
Fastskin Pro 8 008153218 classic
Fastskin Pro 8 008143218 full - knee
Fastskin Pro 8 008053218 full
Wouldn't you think that the pants would be listed here too??? Or are they and I'm missing it?
My son has a meet TONIGHT! His coach just emailed this list AFTER PRACTICE last night! I've been looking into this for hours with no luck for an answer
Submitted by: HerculesMom
Reaction Time responses do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions
of Swimming World Magazine or SwimmingWorldMagazine.com.
Reaction Time is provided as a service to our readers.
|
Subscribe Now!
|
